Infinity can be an attribute of reality, or phagocytes reality. It is easier to say that reality exists inside of infinity, but that is not because one necessitates the other, but rather that true infinity would be all reality and then more.

Impossibilities are tricky business. This is because it must be absolutely true that a thing does not, or cannot exist for it to be impossible. Instead of relying on intuition, you must be able to somehow prove that this thing cannot be. Since we are talking about infinity, and the thesis of the first post was that it is impossible to substantiate any evidence that infinity exists, then I should warn you that what you are saying is contradictory. If it is not empirically true that it does exist, then the same can be said about it's non-existence as well.

I am not sure that I understand the logic of the answer to the question "How is it that infinity does NOT interact with us?"

Once again, I think it is clear, it is not possible to substantiate empirical evidence that proves that you are not being influenced by infinity, or interacting with it. In regards to sensations, I might be able to somehow imagine what forever could be like, or to imagine what a non-changing state of existence is. Often these are divine imaginations, and they have to do with the heavens, or some infinite-like understanding of what God is. Because I can have these imaginations, it seems possible that they are an expression of how the infinite exists. I do not like this argument; however, it can be a cogent one. To say that the interpretations of life after death are an expression of an intuitive knowing (a sensationally premised conclusion), that infinity does exist, is a sound argument. Notice though, there is a no mention of absolute certainty.

The Fibonacci number set. This number set continues from the before numbers, but it does not have to start at "1" as it has in the forgone example. Actually, it is a rounded-off version of the golden number set (the divine ratio), which needs no start point at all. The Fibonacci is easier to understand (without geometry). The continuing numbers are: ...21,34, 55... the repetition is the process of summation. The golden ratio exists all throughout the human body. And yet, every human body is deemed entirely unique. In this way there is order to a non-orderly thing. The same can be said about fractal geometry. (You said you may be interested in this).

Music, as heard by the human ear, contains structure, and again it can be entirely chaotic. I hate to ask this very valid question, Could music be anyother way? The melody, and harmony aspects to music can be graphed so simply, and the notes can be seen incrementally, and the increments fit together with others sectionally, so that we have interlocking scales, circles of fifths and such things. But still, there is something interesting about the dropping of the seventh note, and there are slight inconsistencies, and then there are other quarter and eighth notes, which in western music are overlooked completely, and these harmonize. Let us not forget the chaotic nature of rythym. It all fits so well together. Like a well organized closet, it always seems that everything fits quite well no-matter how much, or how little is in it.

There is a finite value to two harmonizing notes. This is purely mathematically expressible. The Pathagorians philosophized over this in 500 BC, and they concluded that all of the cosmos is music in another form.

The idea that comfort is brought about from music is fine enough. What is more interesting is how inspiration might be brought about by music. It seems to me that comfort is in large supply in this world.

HUMAN POSTED : Therefore, by logic, shouldn't the equating of people or things with impossilities like "infinity", "perfection" and so on be the same as saying that those people or 'things' are impossible and, therefore, nonexistant, or zero?

THE RESPONSE : Since when is perfection inherently impossible ? Since you , sir, have presented the premise that perfection is impossible---the burden of proof is on you to demonstrate through deductive means (if one can) that such a premise is right .

"There is no "sound" to silence unless you want to include the stuff you hear, within your body or outside of it, imagined or imported,
when you're hearing "silence" -- and that begs explainiing your definition of "silence"." - Human


A stilled heart is silent

"One can not exaggerate infinity." - William F. Buckley

Deaf can not hear a heart beat
Their heart is quiet
ly
Felt.

There is no "sound" to silence.
Silence is the absence of sound.
Silence is quiet
ing,
Infinitesimally moving
To a nearness,
Sliding relentlessly to be
Touch.

Senses aggregate
Without barrier
Melting seamlessly
In commun
ion.

I wanted to say I know
Death,
while my heart pauses
Still, quiet
Not stilled with silence.

Your "physical requirement of substance" argument reads quite linearly, which makes it nice. If find it ironic that the question you ask about harmonies presents me with a counter premise. Waves to not have physical substance, yet they have pattern. Light (waves), you say, might last forever. This is ultimately a contradiction to your original argument.

Infinity is a measurement, as best one can tell. There are even different sizes of infinity.
For example, if a brighter light were to be bounced between two mirrors untill it ran out, and a milder light source were to do the same, and both were measured to see which bounced the most, this would be a method of measuring different sizes of infinity.

On another note, it is possible that faries exist. I'm sure you could find some people on tribe that would think so. It's possible that everything which cannot be seen exists. It's possible that your distain of disbelief is similar to that of mid-eval Pope's and priest's who sentenced Darwin and the like to death because of a lack of simple tangibility and convenience. The point of philosophy is to find out what you can about epistemological, metaphysical, and existential problems. This requires a patients for things like faries.

Fractal geometry has been used to measure those things which repeat inside of themselves. It appears that there are things which do this, so fractal geometry is real. The shoreline of Britain in 1967 was measured with a map, and using the scale of the map, to measure the shoreline with a ruler, with mostly straight lines. Someone (Richardson 1961), argued that, by walking the shoreline, and measuring the travelled distance, a more accurate measurement would result. The argument was eventually made, that to a limited degree, depending on the smallness of the tools, shorelines could be measured more accurately. The walking distance estimation was not enough to satisfy B.B. Mandelbrot. He said that walking is not accurate, for if you were to measure every stone that was half covered by the sea water, then the result of such a measurement would be shown to be under-estimated.

The only accurate measurement for Mandelbrot required the use of fractal geometry to calculate how many folds of land existed, and then reversely unfold such land and measure it linearly. It was found that there were 26 such folds for every one unit of shoreline.

About harmonizing notes and their finite value.
Take a note, and with this selection know that it is a wave that is being discussed. This wave presents itself to measurement. It is an amount of hertz/ second. For example, the A below middle C is 440 hertz/sec. The major 3rd of this note is of an equal ratio to the major 3rd of any other root note. These harmonies are a sign of inherent order among all notes. They are ratios of wave length which fit each other, or overlap. Five octaves above A 440, there is A 2200. The latter A peaks 2 and 1/2 times inside of the length of the former A's sign wave. (note: a sign wave is a half wave length). Notes fit one another in this way. These are the limits, or requirements of harmony. Harmonies are notes that are bound to one another.